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you didn't see, it's because of all the breaking news. >> brian: if you have to run from the tv, run to the radio on your fox news radio app. >> steve: the fox news channel's after the show show starts right now on-line. bill: let's start with a fox news alert. bring you the very latest from the boston marathon bombings on monday. the fbi says someone knows who did this as we get new details on the bombs that tore through the heart of the boston marathon. a viewer sending this picture to a local tv station what may have been the second bomb to go off. you see a bag next to a mailbox up against a barricade. that was along the finish line of the mayor,000 route. after the explosion there is no longer a bag there the image blurred due to the graphic nature of the casualties. the fbi says in the bag was a simple pressure cooker with a nails and ball
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bearings. investigators hope to determine where it was bought and who bought it. this photo showing a nail and what appears to be part of a zipper. fbi taking all these pieces and trying to reconstruct the bombs. thank you for spending part of your day with us. i'm bill hemmer again live in coply square here in boston. heather good morning to you as well in new york heather: i'm here in fox news headquarters for martha. fbi agents are pouring over the area inch by inch. boston police calling it the most complex crime scene in boston history, bill? bill: the boston community remembering their own for the lives that were cut too short. 8-year-old life was cut
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short. 29-year-old krystel campbell, the restaurant manager went to the marathon to take at that picture of her friends's boyfriend crossing the finish line. hundreds of neighbors remember martin richard with boundless energy and infectious smile that would simply light up a room. >> this was a devastating tragedy. to have it happen so close to home. so close you could actually hear the bang. that is too close to home. >> although it was shocking as you can see here tonight it really rally ad strong community together. >> it is kind of uplifting to see the whole park full and all of the community spirit of people wanting to be together to support each other but also so that the family knows how much support they have. everyone knows them. everybody loves them. it is just unthinkable such, you know, anybody's little boy was our little boy. bill: also through her own
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tears, patty campbell the mother of krytel. mother remembers a daughter taken too soon. >> i remember, everybody that knew her, loved her. she used to -- had a goal. who couldn't ask for a better daughter. i can't believe this has happened. she was such a happy person in everything she did. this doesn't make any sense. >> thank you. >> what type of daughter was she, ma'am? >> she was the best. couldn't ask for a better daughter. bill: heartbreaking to hear. we are learning the name of the person who was the third fatality. chinese state media
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identifying her. she was a young boston university graduate student from china, studying here in town. she was with two friends watching the race at the finish line not far from campus with the other victims here as well. that news broke late last night. after notifying family and next of kin, we now pass along to you the name of that third victim. we are along boylston street yet again over my left shoulder. if you went down several city blocks, that with be the scene and the site of the finish line and explosions as well. the security perimeter that was established yesterday has been taken down. traffic flows behind us here and the block after that. what you see is a city, boston, functioning normally for the most part outside of that specific area where those two explosions went off at 2:50 local time monday afternoon. there is a lot to go through throughout the day. we will bring you the very latest on the investigation, which really, heather, is at the heart of the matter, taking the forensics, taking
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the science, trying to find that link. often times the briefings we hear are a great source of information for us. when the fbi talks today we'll cover that live. heather. heather: scouring over 2000 tips and begging for more. we see the traffic moving behind you, bill. you mentioned physically in boston they're trying to get back to normal. emotionally it will be a long time coming. thanks. bill: indeed it will. a strong, strong town here as you know. heather: we learned meantime president obama will be traveling to boston tomorrow. massachusetts governor deval patrick says the president will attend an interfaith service dedicated to those that were injured or killed. we understand the president will speak at that service. he has canceled plans to visit the university of kansas on friday. bill: also major league baseball paying tribute to the people of boston. baseball runs through this entire town and fans of the red sox. there was a moment of silence before the city's
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beloved red sox were playing a game in cleveland against the indians. >> please join us now in a moment of silence. bill: also the horror near the marathon's finish line, fresh on the players minds. the red sox had already boarded bosses for the airport on monday afternoon when they learned of the bombings. after the 7-1 wins, red sox posing with a banner of boston's b logo and one word that says it all, strong, as in be strong. indeed they are. cities around the country paying tribute to people of boston in their own ways which we will share with you in a moment as we continue to cover not just what is happening in boston but how the country is reacting which is essential aspect to the story. all across the country with the ripples of that effect, heather. so that's coming up. heather: meantime bill, we
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have another developing story in washington to talk about. all mail delivery to the u.s. senate halted at this hour after a letter sent to republican senator roger wicker of mississippi, twice tested positive for the potentially deadly poison, it is called ricin. peter doocy is live outside the senate mail facility in high yatsville, maryland. peter do we know where the letter came from? >> reporter: the postmark says memphis, tennessee. there was no return address and we're told there is no other suspicious parkings on the envelope. democratic senator, claire mccaskill, says authorities think that a man who sends a lot of letters to lawmakers may have sent this but we don't know the person's identity. fbi said initial testing was inconsistent. they have a accredited lab to confirm the presence of ricin. we should have the results 24 to 48 hours.
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ricin can be deadly and there is no antidote. house sergeant of arms sent out a note to house offices on the hill. we need to remain attentive handling mail and recognizing suspicious items and knowing what immediate actions to employ if faced with suspicious mail in the office. but a spokes man for the minority leader in senate, mitch mcconnell, says in this case it appears the protective measures worked, because, heather, the letter only made it to this building, 15 minutes, 20 minutes outside of washington in maryland t did not make its way to the u.s. capitol complex which is what the system is designed to do. heather: i'm sure a lot of postal workers are concerned because it had to make its way from memphis, tennessee, to there. that distance. >> reporter: right. heather: have we heard from senator wicker whose name, if any was on the suspicious envelope? >> reporter: we have heard from him in a paper statement. he is thanking people for
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their thoughts and prayers. very simply just said, this matter is part of an ongoing investigation by the united states capitol police and the fbi. i want to thank our law enforcement firms for our hard work and diligence keeping those of us who work in the capitol complex safe. as you mentioned the postal workers obviously some are concerned. u.s. postal service says the safety of their employees, of their customers and of u.s. mail in general is their top priority right now but none of those senate offices will be getting mail until authorities can figure out what's going on. heather? heather: peter doocy reporting live for us, thank you. bill, all this coming on the heels of the situation going on there in boston and no word and no connection between the two so far. that is important to point out. bill: indeed it is, heather. just standing here on boylston street, we are in boston's back bay which, for the most part it is the center of boston. boston commons off to my
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left shoulder. a beautiful stunning day here yet again as we saw on yesterday and on monday and the boston police taking their k-9 units through. we'll share you this story in about 30 minutes. these are the bomb-sniffing dogs, going through our equipment making sure everything is safe in our location here. i would indicate to you, there is a lot of media here. we take pictures and we share them with our audience the word goes out if someone else is up to no good, the boston police want them to know they're on the lookout yet again. we are just getting started now, but there is a lot to talk about with our next guest because he led new york city out of the horror of the attacks of 9/11. today rudy giuliani, with his message to the people of boston. new concerns bombings like the ones in boston would be carried out in other american cities. the new threat of ieds at home as the fbi hunts for a killer or killers. >> we will go to the ends of the earth to identify the subject or subjects who are
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and i know the results will be fantastic. angie's list -- reviews you can trust. bill: america's mayor, rude did i -- rudy giuliani. appraising those who sprang into the actions after the boston bombings. he brought the city and nation together after the attacks on 9/11. i spoke the mayor earlier today. mayor giuliani, good morning, thanks for your time this morning. i want to talk about the investigation in a moment. i want to share with viewers you love america but love the new york yankees first and foremost. last night at yankee stadium they paid a tribute to boston with this tradition from fenway park at yankee stadium. ♪ sweet caroline, good times never seemed so good ♪.
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♪ i've been inclined, to believe there never was but now i --. bill: that is as close as you get to brotherly love, don't you? this is a tradition at fenway park and yankees shared it. you had a front row seat to a national tragedy. i am curious to get your feelings on moments like these. >> this is absolutely terrible time for boston and america to have to go through this, particularly the uncertainty of, what it was all about, how it happened, who did it, all of that adds to some of the collateral feelings that people have about it but the main thing is, innocent life being lost. seeing that little boy lose his life, i don't know how you can't be so angry at whoever did this and so upset about it, but the reality is this is the world we live in today. we have to deal with it. we have to deal with it effectively. i think so far everything
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looks like it is being dealt with effectively. i think the first thing that i remember, after finding out about this and watching it is, first thunk i noticed were the firefighters and police officers and some of the civilians in boston jumping over that fence and heading for the fire. to me that was an uplifting experience. that said to me, these are really, really brave people. they're going to be able to get through this the way my people in new york were able to get through it, where the you know, the firefighters and police officers ran in to save people. they put the flag up right away to say, hey, we're not taking this. we're fighting back. and i know bostonians really well. some of my best friends come from boston. as a yankee fan you have to say it that way. but the reality is, these are very strong people. wow, i mean bostonians have similar background to new yorkers. even though we fight over baseball we're very similar people. so i think that --. bill: they are tough. you really, you get a sense
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of community here as well. you said a number of things late last night. i want to pick through those now. you're a former prosecutor. you say you have solved entires cases strictly an photographic evidence alone. how is that possible? and reflect how that is possible when you consider the strong public appeal yesterday to bring any videos or any photographs that anyone here in boston may have had from monday afternoon? >> sometimes takes a few days for that to happen. sometimes takes weeks for that to happen. i remember a case at the end of the time i was u.s. attorney. there was real serious doubt what happened. about four or five days later a person showed up with a videotape that they had taken of the incident. you know, people sometimes don't know what they have in their videotape, in their video camera, in their camcorder until they go look at it. and sometimes they don't go look at it for a few days. it is very, very smart for them to do what they're
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doing, asking everybody to bring everything in. it will take days to go through it but they just might find something. don't exclude the fact they already found something but they're not telling us for which they are perfectly correct. you have to have a different theories aboutifferent investigations but if there is some people on the loose right now i'm not sure i would want them to know how close i was to catching them. i would want them to stay fat and happy and exactly where they are rather than giving them -- hey, we're almost ready to catch them. maybe they it will take off. bill: almost hike you hold some cards very close to the vest. it is moving now toward day three. you say the first 24 hours are the most critical. >> the first 24 hours of any investigation is absolutely critical. that is why handling of a crime scene is so important. doesn't mean you have to solve it in the first 24 hours, that's where you will gather most of the evidence that will probably make the case for you or you're not,
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or you're not and you're going to lose it. getting pressure cookers is big advantage to that that. that will give them an awful lot of information about this, who was involved with this, how to trace it, what to look for it. there is a note here, pressure cooker was used by the guy that attempted the bombing on times square. so this isn't the first time they have been used. and in, al qaeda manual that is one much the ways it is described you can make a bomb have more impact, have more effect. bill: another point here too, mayor, what is your gut tell you? are they close? do they have something? do they have a lot or are they a long way away at the home? what do you think? >> honestly bill, i can't tell. i don't have a gut about how close they are. they could be closer than they make it seem with the appeals that they're making because they are trying to hold things closer to the vest. i actually can't tell.
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i have, i have a hunch but it is only a hunch and i could be proven wrong. it sound to me like this is not heavily orchestrated overseas. i would be surprised if this were directed internationally. i wouldn't be surprised if there were some connections between the person or persons who did this and some international organization but i would be surprised if this were orchestrated overseas because i think by now we would have collected intelligence that we could have pieced through this if this was being directed from pakistan, afghanistan or someplace in after fromca. now it still could be like major hasan, right? major hasan was domestic but major hasan was communicating internationally. major hasan was driven by jihadist theories and instincts. he was following kind of a encouragement from bin laden to do these one-offs as a way of terrorizing us. that doesn't mean it isn't connected to --. bill: hasan in texas.
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>> that doesn't mean it isn't connected but i doubt it was orchestrated overseas. it could be just an insane person. we can't exclude that and not connected to political or idealogical motivation that is part of the frustration. that means we don't know how to look for the next one until we fund out what was the cause of this one. it is just going to be connected to other events that take place. is it a trigger for other events? is it a one-time event? until you solve this you're not going to know that. bill: mayor, thank you, appreciate your insight. >> thank you, bill. good work up there. bill: thank you. thank you very much. rudy giuliani with us today. also in a moment here new details on the dozens of victims remaining in the hospital this morning. a nine and 10-year-old in critical condition. a live report on them today as we receive more graphic, first-hand accounts from the scene of the boston bombings. >> to go from a few seconds ago, the people cheering us
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on, hooting and hollering having this great experience to that instant of chaos, it is definitely hard to wrap my brain around it.
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bill: we are learning more about the bombs used here this boston. authorities believe they were likely made out of pressure cookers that look something like this, until they were converted into ieds much devastating weapons you could find in your kitchen and end up looking like this tangle mess. the bops were likely made out of six liter pressure cookers. then surrounded or filled with nails and small ball bearings to increase the carnage. an inanything device may have been inserted through the lid of the pressure cooker an triggered by a timer remotely-detonated. do not undervalue the level
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of this evidence and how critical it will be to put pieces together for this massive mystery and this jigsaw puzzle we have today in boston, heather. heather: i was reading more about the nails they are talking about. we're not talking about large nails, tiny fine nails, small ones than used to hang a picture say in your house and imagine them pulling those out of people one by one. a lot to go through. bill: that is what doctors are dealing with at hospitals, you're right. heather: devastating. meantime we have many so new information, speaking of those patients, dozens of boston bombing victims who are still in the hospital. 17 still in critical condition including a nine and a 10-year-old. horrific injuries caused by the flying shrapnel from those explosives. >> i personally wasn't hit but the person next to me lost a him, lost her fingers, all the fingers on one hand. it was awful.
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heather: mike tobin is live for us at massachusetts general hospital in boston. so, mike, how are the victims there doing? >> reporter: you know, heather, i would have to categorize the news as good. things are holding steady. the doctors here, particularly the that there won't be any additional loss of life. he believes they got the bleeding stopped in time to prevent any additional organ failure. some of the patients are uplifting, glad to be alive despite severe injuries and loss of limbs. they fell unconscious while losing blood and they're simply glad to wake up anywhere when they woke up in the hospital. we're getting similar information out of boston medical center which released some information this morning saying that the patients are making good progress. tufts university medical center, same kind of information. optimism that there will be no additional loss of life, no need for amputation, heather. heather: mike, i understand you we're now hearing from patients exactly how
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terrifying that explosion was? >> reporter: particularly patients with minor injuries, minor relative to all the other accidents that happened out here or other injuries that happened here in boston. one individual, nicholas, suffered a perforated ear drum watch the race with his wife. >> i looked back and i see a pile of smoke. i realized something was going on. i looked over at my wife, and, you know, i see that her lower leg was, was hit by something, some shrapnel had hit her leg and, you know, she was bleeding. >> reporter: he pulled his wife into a nearby sports shop. she ordered him to make a tourniquet. he pulled a t-shirt off the rack and did just that. she is now alive recovering in the hospital. he has been released. heather? heather: mike, i understand a lot of the doctors say the tourniquets put on there at
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the scene really did save lives in a lot of cases? >> reporter: it seems to be that. dr. velmah u.s. was speaking yesterday. you have a lot of organ failure because of blood loss was stopped at scene. and people donating blood, that's why they are optimistic you won't have additional organ failure. heather: you could see it in the faces blood loss at the scene. mike, we'll check back with you. the fib is pouring over what they are calling the largest crime scene in boston history, vowing to go to the ends of the earth if that is what it takes to find the killers or killer involved. how the public's help could be key to finding those responsible
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bill: back here live along boylston street in boston, i just want to share something we mentioned about 15 minutes ago. the k-9 unit for the local boston police department are out in force today. in fact, this is what we saw moments ago as the k-9 units were going through a lot of media equipment here, our bags and our cases and our cameras, making sure everything stays safe just like it has been for the past couple days. also, i would say sending a strong message too, we have cameras here. we take the images and broadcast them out across the country and around the world. there are so many media outlets as well. this is strong message for people, in the event that, you know they want to cause more harm, this is the way to do it.
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and but the boston police, want the public to know, and anyone who might be up to no good they're on the lookout for them today. we just wanted to share that with you happening at our location on boylston street just moments ago, heather. heather: bill, we'll actually talk a little more about the bomb-sniffing dogs. because they're there with you today, checking out the area making sure everyone stays safe but they were also there during the marathon and prior to the marathon. that leads to the question how did these devices get in that area? we'll talk a little bit more about that. bill: okay. heather: in fact, an urgent plea for help finding whoever was responsible for the deadly terrorist attack in boston. the fbi now asking the public to come forward with photos, videos, anything that they might have seen or heard. >> the person who did this is someone's friend, neighbor, coworker or relative. we're asking anyone who may have heard someone speak about the marathon, or the date of april 15th, in any
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way, that indicated that he or she may target the event to call us. someone knows who did this. heather: former fbi special counterterrorism agent in new york, jonathan gilliam joins us to talk more about this you're a lead investigator in the case. someone knows who did this, begging people and the public come forward with any tips they may deem important for them to see, pictures, information, anything for the public's help. what does that tell but the state of their investigation? >> you can never tell where the bureau or the task force is in their investigation. they're the best at what they do. from this point forward there is nobody better than what they do as far as digging through this massive puzzle of, of investigative leads. one thing that you have to look at here is that there's two investigations going on. there's one investigation
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that's going on from the point of the explosion for ward. and there's also an investigation going on looking how this actually happened. the second investigation of how this actually happened ties in with who actually did it and that's where they're asking the public for their assistance. most people don't realize they can be an integral part of an investigation and the lo of the times nowadays with cell phones, there is witnesses everywhere and at a special event there's eyewitnesses everywhere. heather: people constantly taking pictures. >> absolutely. heather: speak to that a little bit more, how this happened to begin with. we saw bill there a short time ago with the bomb-sniffing dogs out there today. >> right. heather: we know that also was the case prior to the marathon itself. so howe did these devices which we're now being told apparently were in big, large sized duffle bags left at scene, two different locations where the bombs went off, how did that
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happen? >> that is a good question. that is the million dollar question. having ran special events in new york city for the fbi many years and having been a seal prior to coming to the fbi i'm skilled at looking at things from attacker, defender point of view. most people don't really realize they have that ability until they get into a crisis situation but, unfortunately the way a lot of these things unfold is, there's a sweep of an event. and then, there should be a lockdown but because of --. heather: meaning at that point of lockdown no one else is allowed to bring in anymore bags or anything like that. >> that's correct. a frozen zone. and unfortunately in a lot of these situations you have vendors or you have hotels or you have ticketholders and they're allowed to come in there. that's part of the whole process of a special event is allowing people to be in there. there are critical areas such as a finish line where there is just massive amounts of people. any special event, doesn't
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matter if it's a marathon or concert or a yankees game, at the end you will have the most highly concentrated groups of people. heather: we don't want to place blame at this point. >> we're not placing became. what i'm looking at here though from an attacker's point of view is, a unconventional warfare attacker is always looking attack ticks that are used by law enforcement and the awareness of the civilian population. and then adjust their tactics to maneuver around those things. heather: so they perhaps knew after this lockdown they could still get something on. >> i'm sure it was --. heather: talk to us a little bit the pictures that have now been released in terms of the bomb themselves. the fact a pressure cooker was apparently used. you look at the pictures and you can see some sort of numbers even that are still intact. hopefully that could perhaps be a cereal number they could track where it was sold. >> right. heather: you also say more importantly there is all the information how you can use a pressure cooker available online so anyone can see how
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to do it, maybe the triggering device that was used? >> it could be. i think more often than not in these investigations, if you look back historically, what normally is a big break in the puzzle. you have to think about the puzzle as being massive amounts of pieces of several different pictures. heather: yes. >> once they find something they can hone in on, they're able to start really picking more specific pieces and more often than not what they find is a break is a serial number, a receipt which is, you know, for a rental car or in this case, you know, for whatever type of device that they used. they can also look at the specifics of how those things were used. who uses, you know a triggering device versus a remote device. those are all telltale signs they can look into. heather: a footprint who may have done it? >> that's correct. heather: okay. >> more often than not the cereal numbers, those type of things can really lead them to a lot. these investigators, i can't tell you enough, they're
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incredible what they do. heather: thanks for joining us. we'll have you back. we appreciate the insight. new concerns over improvised explosive devices will congress act because of the tragedy in boston? we'll talk about that coming up. republican congressman peter king joins us live to weigh in. ♪ [ male announcer ] help brazil reduce its overall reliance on foreign imports with the launch of the country's largest petrochemical operation. ♪ when emerson takes up the challenge, "it's never been done before" simply bemes consider it solved. emerson. ♪ [ female announcer ] from more efficient payments. ♪ to more efficient pick-ups. ♪ wireless is limitless.
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bill: we have been sharing with you, some of the picture evidence, the photographic evidence when the police or fbi release it. we have one more new image we want to share with you. what you can clearly see are the remnants of ball bearings on top of a sewer on boylston street with a ruler at the bottom of the screen. that gives you an idea about what was packed inside those pressure cookers, those 6-liter pressure cookers talked about now for the past 24 hours. all this is happening as a new concern for the growing threat of ieds in american cities as we learn more about the two bombs monday.
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fbi looking to see if they were packed in a pressure cooker. you see the remnants of such a pressure cooker on the screen. peter king, on the house homeland security committee and terrific to have you back on today here on "america's newsroom.". i don't know what you talk about in committee behind closed doors. frankly you are privy to a lot of information the american public is not but when you think about this device and how it could have been made, by anyone with a motivation to pull it off, what is your consideration for the possibility that ieds like these happen not just in boston but in gatherings across the country? how do you reflect on that now, sir. >> bill, this is a growing concern. last year when i was chairman of the homeland security committee we had two subcommittee hearings involving ieds, improvised explosive devices and we saw the real threat that was coming from them, several different types. one can be remote-controlled
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or they could have detonators. as far as those that are remote-controlled, i feel strongly local police should have access to jammers. i believe they should have more cooperation with the military. right now there are legal issues as far as jido, the legal unit involved in this. military has expertise with i dell. s. that is working with remoat controlled ones. i've been working with secretary napolitano and find the way to provide jammers to local police. as far as those with detonators, there is no, other than having more dogs, more surveillance and that appears to what happened here. if it was a detonator, only way to stop there, if there were more police dogs constantly screening the area and, again, we, you know, when there is after-action report from the boston police department we'll have a better idea what happened, how those ieds got there. bill: yeah. understood. did you say jammers?
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i want to be clear on that, is that the word you used? >> jammers. yeah, jammers can be used against remote controls. bill: what would they do? >> they would prevent an ied going off. it would prevent the person trying to set it off by remote control, it would prevent that from happening. we used them in afghanistan. we used them in iriraq. bill: yeah, i asked that because apparently cell phone service and e-mail service was down several hours month afternoon. were jammers used in the boston after the attack it is. >> i'm not sure. could have been cell phone operators after you shut them down. bill: i want to bring you some breaking news we're getting here now. we talked about the pressure cooker. we shared the image, a piece of a remnant of a pressure cooker. apparently the lid of one of these devices was located on top of a roof on boylston street behind me now. you're piecing this together. i talked to rudy giuliani
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about this 30 minutes ago. what is your sense, peter king, what is your hunch? do they have something? are they close or, are they frankly a long way away at the moment? >> i would say that it will be, resolved sooner rather than later. this is going to be painstaking but at the same time we're talking experts here, atf, fbi, boston police, they are reconstructing this bomb. finding signature for it. they will find the manufacturer. they will find the dealer. from that they will be able to trace back who was the purchaser. who assembled it. who bought even though there is no suspect as far as they know right now, you have so much evidence. the combination of the components of the bomb, cereal up in members. the fact that you also have so many video cameras, so many still photos, so many iphones, we have the best of the best working on this. the fbi and atf when it comes to explosives are the best. bill: just one more question here. i don't know if this is entered into your conversations yet but do you
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get the sense that security will change whether it's a marathon here in boston or whether it's a baseball game in st. louis? are we now embarking in a new phase in american security, much as we did have september 11th? >> i think as far as security at the events themselves, really only can be fine tuned. i don't think that much more can be done. obviously the boston police will look and see what changes can be made. i don't see dramatic changes happening at the event itself. we need more cameras. if we have cameras sim to lower manhattan going up midtown, over in london you could find out who was involved much more quickly because everything is done frame by frame, rather than trying to assemble 5 to 600 or 1,000 video cameras. we'll see more and more use of cameras. shows the need for intelligence. you have to have pple on the ground and also, see something, say something. >> great point. >> if anyone sees anyone
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buying components, any type of bbs or ball bearings, a large amount of nails even, report that to the police because, i know in new york, i keep going back to that, but local merchants are told whether beauty products, whether it is any type of electronic devices which are not dangerous in themselves but could be bomb components to report that to the police and let the police check it out. bill: yeah. thank you, sir. good to have you back on with us today. >> bill, thank you as always. bill: live from capitol hill. more from boston and now to heather in new york. heather: thank you, bill. a final farewell to the woman who changed a nation and the world. we talk with a friend of former british prime minister margaret thatcher. would absolutely not have taken a zip line in the jungle. i'm really gd that girl stayed at home. vo: expedia helps 30 million travelers a month find what they're looking for. one traveler at a time. expedia. find yours.
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heather: remembering "the iron lady." former prime minister margaret thatcher given a ceremonial funeral with military honors, remembered for her courage, her steadfastness and her resolve. among those in attendance, former vice president dick cheney and former secretary of state henry kissinger along with queen elizabeth the ii. we have a member of the u.k. parliament. he was also a close friend of the baroness. he joins us now to talk a little bit more about his reflection on her life and the funeral services today. thank you for joining us and taking the time. >> good morning, a pleasure. heather: so the last public event for the baroness was your 50th birthday. tell us about your reflection on this day as we look back at her life. >> well, it was a tremendous honor to have her there. she didn't do very many public events at all but very typical of margaret thatcher they said, she
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might come for 20 minutes and might be exhausted and, you know, half a dozen glasses of champagne and hour and a half later she was still going strong and was the life and soul of the party. that is very much who she was. she had this intensity about her and a lust for life that came about in anything she did. heather: the service today, she planned in detail herself. she began allegedly planning for this funeral day roughly eight years ago, said to show both her patriotism and her drive. what did you think about the actual service as it unfolded today? >> i thought that it was a very fitting tribute to a very remarkable woman. but i think that its simplicity, added to the poignancy of it and i think as well as showing her patriotism it also showed her basic religious devotion. this was a funeral service. it wasn't a memorial.
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it was a christian sendoff to somebody who had deep faith. and i think all of us were incredibly touched by the service itself. not only was it an incredible moment in our history, here we were saying good-bye to the first woman leader of a major western democracy. the longest serving prime minister of the 20th century in the united kingdom. a woman who stood shoulder to shoulder with the united states winning the cold war and put her career on the line to take back the falklands and guaranty the self-determination of the people. this was a truly momentous occasion but its simple nature i think indicative of a humility but a lot of people never really saw in margaret thatcher. heather: served for 11 years there at 10 downing street. amongst the things she determined who would say the readings. you mentioned her faith. one of the portfolio managers she insisted be read was by william words worth. that was definitely a clear indication of her faith.
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also a hymn sung at the funeral of princess diana back in 1997. >> yes. the whole thing was beautifully put together and i have to say that her daughter, her grand daughter, rather, who is what, 16 years old, showed tremendous poise not only what must have been an intimidating congregation at st. paul's cathedral, knowing millions of people were watching her and she truly did her grandmother proud. heather: an overwhelming day for her person any. dr. liam fox, thank you so much for your insight today. >> my pleasure, thank you. heather: we'll go back to bill standing by in boston. bill? bill: remembering a legend in london. heather, thank you. back to the attacks in boston now, the fbi is pouring over a mountain of evidence but could the bomb itself be the best clue for them? what the pressure cookers could tell the investigators. the ricin scare on capitol hill, a deadly
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bill: morning, everyone. breaking news here from boston where no detail is too small. the fbi pouring every photo, every scrap of metal left behind by new different bombs. pictures from witnesses helping to bring this casein to focus. this is a picture of what could be the second bomb, a viewer sending it to a local tv station in boston. hires the photo of the same area only moments later, the bag is gone, the images blurred at the bottom because the injuries were, frankly, too graphic to show. in this photo released by the fbi showing what is believed to be part of the actual bomb itself, a melted piece of a six liter pressure quiching. a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom," yet again today we continue our coverage live from the city of boston. we are right near copley scare
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in boston's back day and i'm bill hemmer. help thheather if morning to you in new york. >> i am heather childress in for martha maccallum in new york. the victims are being remembered. bill: we will remember them today. a woman has been identified from china who was studying here at boston university. waoerwe are on boylston street, a quarter of a mile from the finish line ever the marathon. this was all blocked off yesterday, but since yesterday afternoon the traffic comes through, congested at times. if you go another block through traffic is moving through that area as well, a sign that the city of boston continues to operate and function just as we mentioned on monday afternoon even after the horrifying scenes that rippled through here, with the exception of that block area about a quarter mile down that's been blocked off as that investigation continues, because, frankly, they are still
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finding more evidence as we will show you as we go throughout the hour here on the images and the pictures they provided for us. now to the victims, and this is so sad, 8-year-old martin richard, he was the youngest of the three people who were killed, his friends and neighbors stunned by his loss. >> it's like a -- he was like a little cherub, he was adorable. i didn't believe this whole thing has happened. i watched him grow tprup a baby -- from a paper. >> it hurts, you know, it's a kid, it's a family, you know. bill: watching him in that picture too with that boston bruins jersey. bolmolly line my colleague with me here. the new photos of the bombs, where do they tell us, where do they lead us? >> reporter: they mirror what investigators told news their
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press conference and the information they have given us not in their press conferences. there were pressure cookers involved here. we've seen these images from fox 5 who first obtained the images of authors. the ball bearings are feet erred in those photos and the black nylon bag all of that information matching up with what investigators told touts begin a one it -- us to begin with. it really gives us insight into the size of the devices. the items have been transferred to quantico, virginia where the fbi will be looking over this piece by piece to find out more and may lead lack to who actually created the devices and placed them in boston. bill: i think it's fro frustrated to us and to the vires, we want answers -- viewers, we want answers. for many people it's taking longer than many would respect. of it is only day three. i thought what the fbi said last night about the tremendous amount of photographic evidence that they've collected from the public already and the fb is i
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fb, is working through that. as a community in boston, you live here, how are they coping? it's such a difficult thing for the people of boston. it's a beautiful city and beautiful day, we are off of the boston common, you see the swan boats rolling yesterday, there are people walking with babies and dogs. there is a sense that people are reclaiming their city. we are not going to let this hold us back, we are going to get out here and live our lives. some of the most touching vigils were held on boston common and in the dorchester neighborhood where this young boy was killed as well. it's about coming together at this point in time showing there are more good people and good people in boston saying look at us, we are coming together and good outweighs evil. we have an interview with one of the women at the candlelight vigil yesterday. here is what she had to say about that. >> when everybody raised their candles and you could see the american flag, it was peaceful but it was also a reminder of
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how united we are as a neighborhood, as a family and friend of this family but also of all of the people who were hurt yesterday, and that we'll standby each other and never forget this. >> reporter: certainly it would be impossible to forget, but clearly, people are moving forward and we are stating to see the city come alive and come back and we are slowly seeing these blocks that were so affected by what happened here be reclaimed. bill: thank you, molly, it's good to be with you here in boston. we believe there will be an fbi briefing later this afternoon that is not confirmed at the moment, but when that happens we will bring that to you live. thanks again to my colleague molly line. i want to go back to heather in new york with more from there. heather: we'll talk a little bit more about the pressure cooker bombs. they first came under truth knee about nine years ago -- scrutiny
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nine years ago. homeland security issued warnings in fact about those times of ied's back in 2004. it works by containing an explosive reaction under pressure for the split second that it takes for the container itself to explode, and then that pressure creates a powerful outward blast the size, the radius of that blast, all that depend on the type of the explosive used and in fact how much was used. out of the tragedy, stories of selfless necessary, stories of strength we are beginning to hear those. victoria mcgrath was badly injured in the attack and took comfort from a stranger helping at one of those medical tents, and she wants to thank him personally appealing to the governor for help in finding him. >> vehicle for yeah very, very much wants to thank tyler personally. if tyler is out there, listening or reading your reports we would love to hear from tyler so we can connect him to victoria. >> you know what we have good news, that worked, it worked out
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and it turns out the man's name is tyler tko*z an remembers her -- dodd and he remembers her well. >> it was chaos, complete chaos, i just saw the terror in her eyes. she was obviously in extreme pain. i just knew that i had to talk to her, if there was nothing else i could do i could talk to her. i asked her to look at me. i think i asked her what her name was and she kind of looked at me funny, like why is this guy asking my name? she said victor yeas my name. i said my name is tie legs, it's going to be okay. she asked me not to leave her. she was holding my hand. some kind of connection on a spiritual level i would have to say. when i told her it was going to be okay she believed me. i can't describe how calm she was at that point and she said yeah, just very selfless telling me to go other people i. continued throughout the time that i was in the tent to walk back and forth to help her, and to do whatever they needed me to do. >> would you like to meet her?
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>> absolutely, i'd love to meet her. >> they are working on that. victoria is still in the hospital, so arrangements are being made for the two to meet at her bedside. you know, bill that takes me back to what we just heard molly line saying, good out does evil, that is definitely a case of it happening right there. bill: indeed, heather thank you for that. extra security measures seen across the country that is raising questions over how americans with balance their safety without giving up their civil liberties. with me now, bret baier host of special report out of washington. good morning to you. as you reflect on this. and i guess based on the people you've spoken to there in washington, they are watching this through a tv screen. where do we go from here, what do you hear? >> reporter: bill, i spent yesterday up on capitol hill talking with lawmakers and that was really the question i was asking a lot of lawmakers, both sides of the aisle, where is the line? where are americans right now, do they think? how much are americans willing
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to give up for more security? you know, this weekend alone there will be 15 more races, marathons around the country, including -- and chris stirewalt wrote in his volume um own are on foxnews.com plower play, including in oklahoma city, and at fort hood, texas, both places that obviously have seen attacks in the past. those are marathons that are going forward. concerns about security, obviously, in the wake of boston. i asked these lawmakers yesterday, where are americans did they think, and where is the line now? here is a sample of two lawmakers i talked to yesterday. >> i think some of the things that our european colleagues have done like closed circuit tv cameras in urban areas are measures i think have real potential in this country. we will have to do some of those things if we want to remain safe and secure here at home and make serious investments in defense
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and homeland security. that's one of the few silver linings in this terrible tragedy yesterday, it remind the american people that we still have a very dangerous threat out there that we have to be able to deal with. >> you know civil libertarians have a problem with some of that and the expansion of it. do you think the line is shifting even further? >> i would remind you that many civil libertarians have a problem with pretty much everything. >> we can do a lot more with advanced technologies without giving up our freedom. i don't think americans feel that they have to give up freedom in order to have security. >> does it change after an attack our consciousness about the threat, do you think? >> i think it would depend on what the source of this threat proves to be. if it looks like it's a foreign attack it could have one impact, if it looks like a more domestic origin then it will have perhaps a different effect. it kind of depend on the facts. >> reporter: it was interesting, bill, both those lawmakers,
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opening man rogers, senator levin talking about technology being the solution for security down the road. and i mentioned the concern of civil libertarians there are other lawmakers we talked to who expressed those concerns and are we'll be talking about those later on special report. bill: looking forward to that. peter king talked about 30 minutes ago about more photographic evidence -- more photographic ability in towns across the country. you wonder how that balances and how that works, and also talked about jamming equipment for the intelligence sources here as well. you've got another store reon capitol hill with this ricin scare. they run parallel toward one another. what was the mood and sense you got on that, bret? >> reporter: there is just an anxiousness up here. there are a lot of thins going on. we have the gun control vote today, the immigration rollout, there are a lot of big things happening, and then added to that you have this ricin care
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that you'll talk about here. but it's anxiousness, and wondering what is next. bill: all right. good to have you one, thank you, we'll catch you a little later tonight. 6:00 eastern time on special report. thank you. heather, what is next. heather: anxiousness all over the country today. i know that, bill, you're going to return there in boston when we come back from the break, plus a national tragedy can change the course of history, and a presidency. president bush saw that after 9/11. we will look at the challenges and changes ahead for the president and the nation. [chanting] >> this young boy, young richard martin becoming a symbol of peace in the aftermath of the bombing just 8 years old. his death uniting a city and the nation. >> you know why we're here? she does no. i said we are here because a little boy went to heaven yesterday at a place that maybe we might have been at. what makes your family smile?
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heather: welcome back. fox news alert now, brand-new details as police investigate a letter mailed to a u.s. senator that tested positive for a dangerous poison. word this morning of a possible person of interest. mike emanuel is live for us on capitol hill. so, mike, what is the latest. >> reporter: good morning. a senior capitol hill source says there are other suspicious letters, possibly sent by the same person, to other government officials, and that source says at least one letter was addressed to the white house. as for the letters sent to senator roger wicker from mississippi it has tested positive in three field tests. sources tell fox news that preliminary tests even at the accredited lab in maryland continue to say positive for ricin. that is significant because there can be false positives in the field. it takes 24 hours to grow a good culture in the lab and get a final conclusive result. the letter sent to senator
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wicker has continued to test positive for ricin. there is a person of interest and authorities say they have a good idea where that person is located. we are told the individual is a frequent letter writer to lawmakers and though there was no return address on the package it fit with other mail sent to lawmakers, heather. heather: mike emanuel live for news washington. thank you, mike. bill: a nation now morning the youngest victim in the boston terror attack, 8-year-old martin richard died while cheering on his father at the finish line. and young martin becoming a symbol of peace seen here holds this sign during the trayvon martin controversy. his mother and sister seriously injured and recovering in the hospital as the city unites the victims in this tragedy. joe dwinell is an - an editor with the bosto "boston
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herald." >> it seems like the city is now coming out of its grief a little bit and needing to reach out and help those who have lost loved ones and lost limbs. still in shock in the city but now the focus is on those who died and are really seriously hurt. bill: show us the cover of our newspaper today, this is the "boston herald" and it says what. >> one boston. this was from garvey bark in dorchester where little martin grew up and his community came out and just showed their support. heavy hearts to say the leaves. this little boy he didn't deserve it he just wanted to go to the race with his family to watch this wonderful race and now the family is deaf senated. to say the least. bill: you had reporters out there. what are you picking up for them as to how this community is responding in it is my sense that they take it very personally. this is a wound to the people of boston. >> right this is a direct hit on boston. i mean, people are upset, they
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are still shocked, but this is the heart of boston, the marathon, patriotic's day -- patriot's day, this is what we stand for. this is what we stand for, everybody pours out for the marathon. to do this to the city is an offense to the city and that's how people are take being it today. bill: teams in this town want to win, high school, college, professional level they want to win and they want the country to know they are winners. in this sense winning will only come when the killer or killers is caught. >> i agree. and when justice is done. theyeed to get the right person or persons, they need to get the evidence they need and they need to close fast, but they need to do it in the right way and i think that's what this city unders. we know, two planes left logan airport on 9/11 and slammed into the twin tore us. we know what it's going to take and that's what people are ready to see. the best in america has come to boston to help us solve this. bill: there are more vigils planned for today, is that
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right. >> right, all around the state though are more impromptu like you said. i'm sure boston will have to tonight. newton, cambridge has one planned. emerson college in a few minutes. as you reported, a bu student is now the third victim. so this is a big college community, they are coming together now too. bill: one more question about what you're receiving in return from the rest of the country. what have you heard and what do you think of the response and reaction? >> i think it's amazing. not only the rest of the country but all around the world. we are getting, you know, emails into the herald, and people are just coming out of the blue and saying, stay strong, boston. that is mostly what it is, stay strong. people know the marathon, it's coming back. people will run the marathon again next year. bill: it will be bigger than ever next year too i would imagine. >> i agree. bill: thank you, joe. appreciate your time today, thank you, sir. in a moment here we'll get you back to some of of the evidence, some of the photographs too that we are now learning b the small bb's lined up on the street of a
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sewer at the finish line behind me, and heather some of that evidence too is something they are trying to piece together to figure out who is responsible. back to boston in a moment. heather: boston strong. scores of people suffering devastating injuries in the attack. we'll speak with marc siegl next and talk about what trauma surgeons are dealing with in their race again time. >> as doctors we often don't ask them the stories we usually focus on the surgery and the care. most of them do have family and loved ones with them, which is nice, so they seem to be handling this very well, given the circumstances. how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing that hasn't changed: the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need
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bill: this is as close as the public and media can get to the finish line. if you were to look down that street and see that white foot bridge that is about the scene
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of the first explosion right at the finish line here on boylston street. but this makeshift memorial was started yesterday and the flowers, very teddy bears and the american flag have been set up just to have a look at a few of the candles that were burning overnight, this sign. , we are boston, we are strong. over here to the right the quote on martin richard, the 8-year-old's t-shirt, no more hurting people. this has been set up a block away, overnight it was moved to this area. you see a boston red sox baseball hat at well. you think about the future for this race, this marathon, what is the future like for this race in years to come. boston will keep ongoing, this sign says, keep on running, boston, and they will. just for a perspective sake that would be an area right behind me here one city block where we just were here. it is boston strong, you saw that visitor stopping by the memorial saying they will not letter reu letter reus eupl
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letter reus eupl keep them away. the 118th boston marathon already being planned. it will be bigger and more important than ever in the great history of this season. heather: absolutely, more people will definitely turn out. the boston bombing leaving more than 170 people dealing with devastating injuries. we've seen this. you know, ranging from broken bones to amputations and shrapnel wound, trauma surgeons working quickly to save lives and limbs. >> it wasn't a hard decision to make, because we just -- we just completed the ugly job that the bomb did, and these patients came to us with completely mangled, destroyed extremity, hanging by shreds of muscle and skin. heather: dr.~march siegl is a member of the fox news medical a team and professor of medicine at nyulangone's center.
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we've heard about the number of amputations they've had to deal with, people that are still in critical condition, a lot of young children. what is the first thing that goes through these doctors' minds? >> he just said it, they decide right at the spot is there so much tissue damage, so much vessel damage, so much bone damage and the rick of infection so high that he has to -- risk of infection so high that he has to amputate right away? those decisions were made. in the days after that you see surgical and artistic brilliance when they decide to save certain extremities, they have to restore blood flow to the tissues to restore the leg and you have to watch out vigilantly for infection and blood clots that can form. you have to watch systemic lee the lungs, you have them on
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respirators, you control pain. i call it art because it all goes on at the same time. heather: the other thing they are dealing with, the shrapnel, nails, the small ball bearings is evidence in a crime that could lead to killer so they have to think of that as well. >> they are in the process of removing as much of that as possible. as i told you before we came on they tend to take these samples for pathology any way it's not like they would literally discard them, they would have saved them, now they have to save them and get them over to the police to help in the bomb identification. the next story will be pros traumatic stress disorder for people in the area and traumatic brain injury though these bombs appeared to be low to the ground a lot of people have broken eardrums that have not come forward wet yet. >> the mom whose little boy was a victim. the mom dealing with tremendous
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brain injuries at this point. >> we have to tell people about the people who stood forward. regardless of the fear they stood forward and saved lives. bill: investigators vowing to find a person or people responsible for the bombings here. there is an urgent plea for help from the public. the clues that you could have that could help the fbi pinpoint who was behind the horrible attack in boston. >> we are asking anyone who may have heard someone speak about the marathon or the date of april 15th in anyway that indicated that he or she may target the event to call us. someone knows who did this. i'm telling you right now, the girl back at home would absolutely not have taken a zip line in the jungle. i'm really gd that girl stayed at home. vo: expedia helps 30 million travelers a month find what they're looking for. one traveler at a time. expedia. find yours.
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heather: we are learning new details in the investigation into the boston bombings. here is catherine herridge live for us at this missouri. >> reporter: one of the critical developments is that bomb components have been identified not only the pressure cookers but fox has confirmed the circuit board as well that would be a phoefd detonation in this case, a cellphone detonation, that explains why the fbi was canvassing the cellphone records to see if they could find a pink or direct hit for the time of detonation. you are seeing evidence pictures first obtained by our fox affiliate in atlanta. what is key is that i was told by a congressional source that
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the fbi believes they will be able to identify from these fragments the manufacturer of that pressure quiching. you have a point of manufacturer, then a distribution and that ultimately takes them to a certain part of the country. second part of this is this block poud tkefrplt i was told that block powders teufp i can leak could he taeupb a tracer or tag and this would allow the fbi to lead them to a potential point of sale for that type of explosive. you've got a lot of forensic kwror that is moving forward very quickly at this this hour and the components being assembled here in the washington area, the fbi's kwan could he, virginia, lab that is kind of like an archaeologist piecing together a broken artifact from a site. they will rebuild the explosive devices to find the signature in this case, where the pressure cooker is from, the circuit board, also the blasting cap can be traced and the explosive itself, heather. heather: that is a great way to describe it, catherine like an
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archaeologist putting together a puzzle. where do they think the bomb was put together? do they have any idea? >> reporter: the latest information we have from a congressional source this morning is that the working theory is that because this type of explosive, the black powder, these were not devices that were assembled at a great distance and transferred in, the risk of a premature detonation would have been too high. the working theory is they would have to be a accepted -bld close to the blast site and even within a few hours of the attack. that is why i believe the "wall street journal" is report th-g morning that there is -- reporting this morning that there is canvassing by the fbi and local police of hotel and short term rental ins the area. heather: all the more important that people contribute if they have any pictures or video around the scene at the time. thank you. >> reporter: thank you. heather: bill. bill: all right, help the tere as the investigation moves forward the fbi is asking the public for any video or pictures that they may have along the
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route as you just mentioned there, but no piece of information is considered too small and charlie payen is on that. he is the former heaved the department of homeland security office for bombing prevention, he is my guest out of washington. it's good to get your expertise today, and good morning to you. >> good morning. bill: all of the material that we are told that's been recovered from the scene of the blast, is said to be very common, and you say that is a problem. explain that. why? >> well, bill, when you've got such a ooh bi a threat of explosive devices around the world and devices essentially are subject to the imagination of the bomber, then consumer items, consumer chemicals, things like, you know, we're talk ago lot about pressure cookers today, but the conversation could be about any number of containers. it could be any number of main charges that were either manufactured or procured. so as you take a look at that
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that means the availability of those things, as well as the availability of the instructions and sort of formulas to make the explosives and assemble the device is widely available. so, that presents a problem in that, you know, a wide investigation is going to necessarily have to include a lot of things until they begin to narrow things down by what they find and the evidence at the scene. bill: when you talk -- i apologize for the interruption. when you talk about the imagination, meaning if you can dream it you can do it, if you can pull it off and they did that just here on monday afternoon. >> right. bill: based on the photographic images that they have made public so far, how good are they? how valuable are they? >> you know, that's really tough to say, bill, because, you know, planning, the science that goes into development of the main charge, all of that, it's really tough to say.
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there's no way to tell how much time the person had, so at this point unfortunately, sadly for us, tragically for us, the devices worked, so they were good enough to have the devices work. bill: the police rely on the public, and the public relies on the police and others to keep them safe. and i think a lot of people are wondering, you know, how safe ki can it be at the public gatherings? certainly you believe it's in the back of the minds of many americans. you would argue there are government programs in place now to counter the threat we saw in boston. what kind of programs, charlie? >> absolutely. and first would i say that if we took a look at the discussion that has gone on over the last couple of days, and maybe one of the press conferences from the scene, and you have the folks stapd up and they talk about the joint terrorism task force, well
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you've got joint terrorism task forces all overt ooh need states that are manned by the state and law enforcement folks, they are out shagging down leads and looking for information about every piece of the device, and any other piece of information, so that is a huge, huge piece that protects us every day, an unbelievable network. and as it rolls down to the patrol officers his awareness, what the bomb looks like, there are programs for that as well. that is extremely important for both the law enforcement officers and the citizens. bill: charlie i need a kick answer on this. i want to ask you this. because i asked meter king and mayor guiliani earlier today. are they close, do they have a good lead or are they far apart at the moment? >> the fbi is the best in the world and i don't like to put money on things, but i'll always put my money on them. bill: right on, char lease, thank you, charlie payne out of
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washington with us. thank you, sir. >> thank you. bill: heather. heather: bill, coming up from boston to washington the impact of the terror attack and what it has on the president in his second term. could this change washington's course? >> i was halfway to my hotel and there's emergency vehicles, you know, flying by. my dad called me when i was trying to get a cab and when he talked to me he was so relieved, and i realized, you know, he was really scared.
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bill: amid the chaos after the bombings here in boston so many acts of kindness, and frankly so many acts of courage catching our eye the story of the cowboy hat-wearing hero who rushes to the aid of a young man who lost both of his legs below the knee. carlos arrendondo putting an injured man in a wheelchair and wrapping tourniquets on his wounds most likely saving the blood inside of his body that ultimately saved his life.
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we hear the survivors family would like to thank this hero personally. what a story that was, the images continue to stun and amaze in boston. heather: really a true showing of the american spirit, bill. meantime there are growing questions whether boston's terror attack could set the president on a different course. right now gun control, immigration legislation, obama care they are all top of the legislative agenda. could we see a change of priorities in washington as a result of this? alan colmes host of the alan colmes and tucker carlson editor for the daly call eastern could he host by the way for fox & friends weekend. congratulations on that, tucker, haven't had a chance to congratulate you. let's talk a little bit about what will happen moving forward from this day, and after what had happened in boston for president obama. he really has, you know, made an effort to not change the course so far, in terms of, you know, his planned events and what he's been doing day-to-day along with
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making statements about the bombing in boston. alan, what do you think is going to happen to, you know, his agenda moving forward from this? >> hopefully lit have no effect on his agenda. the notion that we should somehow change the course or change what we are doing, it would be kowtowing to what a terrorist does, and the phrase, that's when the terrorists do win. the notion that we should stop the course we are on is probably the worst thing we could do. we need to get on with business as usual, and not allow a horrible event like this to affect how we proceed as a nation. >> and tucker it does seem that that is the effort that is being made in washington. you know, even as we have this ricin scare coming on the heels of the situation in boston. >> right, we don't know what is going to happen and that's kind of the point about second terms, and maybe about life, it's unforeseeable. events intercede that you don't expect. all presidents start second terms on a note of hope, they all feel empowered, they feel like their whole program has been ratified by the public.
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george w. bush started his planning social security reform and of course was drawn off that track onto many others. things happen, katrina happened. we could look back over the past five or six presidencies and see you never winder up when when you think you will. and flexibility is an asset for a president. heather: i want to talk about george w. bush and his legacy left behind following the terrorist attacks that happened hopb 9/11. w on 9/11. we had condoleezzaa rice, the national security adviser at the time. she says it puts the president whoever it is in a difficult situation, because he has to reassure persons americans, while at the same time not giving away any information that he himself might have that the public is not privy to, in terms of the investigation and trying to find the terrorists as we are doing there in boston right now, as president obama has to deal with that. >> reporter: that's true, one of the things that george w. bush
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said after 9/11 that i thought was the right thing to say and helpful is that people should go shopping. he got criticized for that. in other words, life just go on and we shouldn't succumb to someone who wants to do us harm would want us to do which is to totally change the way we live our lives. be aware of it, be vigilant but not ahh bow it to change us to become a totally different nation and people. heather: tucker how do you think president obama has handled the terrorist attack in boston so far in terms of public statements. >> fine so far. the pressure these guys face is to act and to do so quickly. blue densblue dense looks a lot like weakness and that is nothing you can ever show as a leader. these guys are underee memory news pressure to do something or seem like they are doing some. this is not aimed at the current president, would i say all presidents, that is why you wind up with bad policy when you act before you understand the consequences of your actions.
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again, they are in a really stuff spot. the public is saying, protect us, do something, help us. heather: and we don't know what they know that they cannot share with us. >> exactly. heather: all they can do is reassure us and remind us, in times like these as the president said we are not democrat, we are not republican, we are all americans. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it, bill, back to the scene there with you. bill: all right, heather thank you. in a moment here we'll go to "happening now" about ten minutes away as we continue our coverage, and we lock for these clues and try to piece this together and jon scott is standing by for a quick preview of what is cooking on "happening now." good morning to you. jon: good morning to you from boston there. are brand-new developments and breaking news on the marathon terror attack. we have just learned about a white house report on the threat from ied's released earlier this year. what is in it and what lessons can it teach us as we move forward? we'll break that down. plus stocks taking another hit today, it has been a bumpy week for the markets. a new arrest in the murder of that texas d.a. and his wife,
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we'll tell but that, plus ambassador bolton on the growing threat from iran and north korea, coming up on "happening now." bill: all right, jon we'll see you at the top of the hour here, thank you, jon scott there in new york. an instant outpouring of support, the runners and the spectators, and the medics on hand springing into action moments after the first bomb went off. in a moment the solidarity for boston spilling way beyond that first response. >> as just a team we really try to work together and hold our home so we can take care of the people coming in. >> the red cross was there giving us blankets and gatorade and power bars. what was even better is that some of the houses opened up to the runners.
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heather: welcome back the sports community mourning the loss of a broadcasting legend.
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announcer pat summe summeral has passed away. >> the hoopla is just about over, and we are going to play i think pretty soon. heather: that is summeral. he actually played ten seasons in the nfl before beginning his second career behind the mike becoming a voice familiar to generations of sports manner. john madden you see him there his part they are in the booth for 21 years saying he was the voice of football and always will be. pat summ pwh-rbgmmeral died on tuesday of cardiac arrest. he was 82 years old. bill: we have heard incredible stories of good samaritans leaping into action moments after the bombs went off on monday. but that outpouring of support reaching well beyond the city of boston, and taking hold with a couple in the twin cities. >> from the moment the marathon changed countless good
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samaritans and first responders proved heroic, running toward the chaos to help anyone they could. >> as just a team we really tried to work together and hold our own so we can take care of the people coming in. >> some runners even went beyond the 26-point 2 miles to nearby hospitals to donate blood for the injured. >> you just feel helpless being this far away and hearing all these people coming back. >> mark and chris own up people poe race management here in the twin cities and after running the boston marathon last year chris was compelled to redirect the resources. >> it's hard to look at the race in the same way. >> they are looking facebook to organize a run for april 28th at the veteran memorial park in richfield. the plan is to horn and raise donations for those injured and killed in boston and bring the running community together. >> we are going to hold the run open for four years nine minutes and 43 second, which kind of is the time that was on the clock when the bomb went off. >> across the country others are drawn to do something victim.
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tweeting marathon shirts from various cities in a sign of unity along with the phrase run for boston. >> just thinking about what is going to happen next. >> pat cotter an army reservist with two friend who ran the marathon on monday is sending positive thoughts from the pavement around lake calhoun. >> you won't stop any of us. it's a lifestyle. no matter who tries to hurt us. >> because hopefully the hurt will be temporary overshadowed by the resilience of runners everywhere. >> if you want to know who we are, what america is, how we respond to evil, that's it, selflessly, compassionately, unafraid. >> very nice to the people in minnesota. fox minneapolis knsp report opening that story out of the twin cities. heather. heather: bill, coming up investigators, they are piecing together remnants of the bombs, and ha they find from
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shrapnel -- what they find from shrapnel to wires could be the key to cracking the case. a former tech with the nypd bomb squad explains what the pieces tell us.
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bill: do you have a picture? i want to take you live to oklahoma city. city hall here. that is apparently an empty u-haul truck is now being inspected. the building has been evacuated. this is remarkable sight here. it is april 1th, on the calendar. you're coming up on the anniversary of the bombing in oklahoma city where you can imagine they take no chances in that town. we want to share that image with you as we close out our program here live from boston. so we'll see what is at the heart of this as we continue throughout the morning into "happening now" next hour. quickly here, before we go, "boston globe", a gr

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